An eSchool Chat Dialogue
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October 27, 2000
Welcome to the virtual chat dialogue between students at Oakdale and Sunset Hills Elementary Schools in Omaha, Nebraska, and Gary Stroutsos, a professional flustist, and Paul Thompson, a Native American flute maker, at the National Museum of Wildlife Art in Jackson Hole, Wyoming.
ron abdouch: Good morning charlotte
charlotte reynolds: Good Morning. Gary is not here yet! But I'm ready and hoping he arrives soon!
Colette deFrey: Charlotte, this is Colette and I will be the moderator this morning
charlotte reynolds: Colette,
charlotte reynolds: Great
Colette deFrey: I will direct all the questions to Gary so he won't be bombarded
Colette deFrey: We will start with Erik's group at Sunset to ask the first question
Colette deFrey: Then Stephanie at Rockbrook will ask a question
charlotte reynolds: That sounds perfect. Paul Thompson, the other musician will also be here.
Colette deFrey: GREAT!!!!
charlotte reynolds: MAybe Gary & Paul can tag team their responses.
Colette deFrey: Would the teachers at Sunset and Oakdale let the kids know that Paul will be there.
ron abdouch: okaty
Colette deFrey: I like the tag team approach
erik clark: Should we have the kids come to the lab now, or should we wait until Gary and/or Paul show up so the kids aren't sitting around here?
Colette deFrey: Erik, go get the kids!
ron abdouch: Kids are on their way at sunset, we will be ready in just a few minutes
erik clark: the kids are here now
Colette deFrey: Welcome, Gary and Paul, to this eschool event. We are so honored to have you with us today
to chat with our students! Thank you so much!
ron abdouch: I am ready with nick and josh at sunset
erik clark: I am ready with Emily and Kathleen at Sunset
Colette deFrey: Erik's groupat Sunset gets the first question. So why don't you guys get ready!
charlotte reynolds: We are ready on this end.
erik clark: We're ready! Here's our first question: How were flutes used long ago?
charlotte reynolds: The insturment was used as a courtship flute.
Colette deFrey: I know one group wanted to know what "courtship" means
charlotte reynolds: To serenade young woman with a song of love.
Colette deFrey: Great - Stephanie has the next question
Robin Davis: Hi! I'm Stephanie! How did u get interested in making flutes out of natural objects?
charlotte reynolds: The serenade was perfomed by only men.
charlotte reynolds: PAul makes the flutes.
Colette deFrey: can Paul answer that question?
charlotte reynolds: He wanted to play the intrument since the 6th grade, but he was told that because of the
parliysis he could not blow on the flute correctly.
charlotte reynolds: He got angry with being told he could not do something...so he learned how to play a
Colette deFrey: What paralysis do you mean? We don't know about that.
charlotte reynolds: Paul has a facial paralysis on half of his face. Affecting how he positions his lips on the
Colette deFrey: Ron, your students have the next question
ron abdouch: Gary, josh and nick would like to know what instruments are you using on the CD?
Colette deFrey: THey listened to the CD WInds of Honor, Gary
charlotte reynolds: Various cedar wood and river cane end blown five and six hole Native American tuned
Colette deFrey: Interesting. Olga, you have the next question
Robin Davis: Hi, I'm Olga. What materials doyou need to make your flutes?
charlotte reynolds: Basic tools include a gouge to make the bore (inside)
charlotte reynolds: then you need a block plane to plane down the wood.
charlotte reynolds: to the desired thickness.
charlotte reynolds: A wood rasp...to round the wood.
charlotte reynolds: Cut the flute to length for the desired pitch
Colette deFrey: The kids at Sunset are making their own lfutes from bamboo. Erik, does one of your students
have a qeustion about making those flutes?
charlotte reynolds: Burn in the holes using a stainless steel rod.
charlotte reynolds: That is the basic process.
Colette deFrey: Interesting - ERik, do your students have another question?
erik clark: We would like to know how many cd's Gary has made?
charlotte reynolds: Gary has made 10 various native inspired and world flute music.
Colette deFrey: Kelly at Oakdale - I am going to push your flute playing site. Get ready to ask a question!
Colette deFrey: http://communitydisc.westside66.org/html/tom/flute/flute.htm
Colette deFrey: Now click on either Flutist (small file) or Flutist (larger file) to see Kelly's performance.
Tom Albertsen: Hi I am Kelly, do you need a thin lip to play a reed flute?
Colette deFrey: Can everyone see and hear Kelly playing????
charlotte reynolds: No, that has nothing to do with it!
ron abdouch: Yes
Colette deFrey: Kelly do you have a question about your breathing?
charlotte reynolds: You need to open your throat more and push more air...bring up your elbows, to open up.
Colette deFrey: Now for a question from Sunset, Ron's group
ron abdouch: Sue and Erin would like to know what tribe Gary is from?
charlotte reynolds: Gary is not a Native person. Paul is Navajo.
charlotte reynolds: Paul is from New Mexico.
ron abdouch: Erin is omaha tribe!
Colette deFrey: Do the Sunset kids now need to change groups?
erik clark: we are on the second group. we changed during the flute
Colette deFrey: Great! So ERik, your question please
erik clark: Why is it called a male instrument?
charlotte reynolds: Historically, only men played the flute. It was how men communicated with women.
Colette deFrey: Stephanie, you are next. Do yu want to push your page??
Robin Davis: sure.
Colette deFrey: http://communitydisc.westside66.org
Colette deFrey: Please scroll down to "Oakdale Invesigates Native American Culture
Robin Davis: Do u believe in the legend of the dream catcher?
Colette deFrey: Then click on it - it will take you to Step;hanie's name. Click on that.
Colette deFrey: You should be able to see her dream catcher that she made and researched
charlotte reynolds: Yes, We have it up.
Colette deFrey: Do Gary and Paul believe in that legend?
charlotte reynolds: Paul says if you believe enough in something then anything is possible.
Colette deFrey: How true! Ron, your next questions from your group.
charlotte reynolds: Gary said that is not a question he can answer, as he is not a Native person.
ron abdouch: Erin and Sue would like to know,"is the bird on the flutes a symbol of something?
charlotte reynolds: We are working on the answer...just a moment.
charlotte reynolds: The bird represents the origin of the first flute as a gift to the people.
ron abdouch: Thanks
Colette deFrey: Olga, you are next. Would you like to show your work?
Robin Davis: Sure, I'd like to show my work. How many octives do your flutes go?
Colette deFrey: http://communitydisc.westside66.org
ron abdouch: We have a new group at sunset now
charlotte reynolds: 1 1/2 octives and about 14 notes.
Colette deFrey: To get to Olga's work, go to Oakdale Investiagates Native Am Culture and cllick, then click on
Colette deFrey: Can you see her work?
Colette deFrey: Olga, why dom'
charlotte reynolds: Yes, we are looking at Olga's work.
Colette deFrey: Olg, please explain your work.
Robin Davis: My work has to do with Native American necklaces.
Colette deFrey: Erik, your students are up now!
erik clark: What is the "love" flute?
charlotte reynolds: By not including a face...you made the focus the necklaces,
Robin Davis: correct
charlotte reynolds: A cedar flute used to serenade a woman.
Colette deFrey: Kelly, do you want to show your work? Kelly has designed some flutes of her own.
charlotte reynolds: We are going to Kellys page.
Colette deFrey: clik on the back button at the bottom of Olga's page and then click on Kelly's name.
Tom Albertsen: Sure
charlotte reynolds: We are pulling up the page now.
Colette deFrey: Do Paul or Gary have a question for Kelly about her flute designs?
phyllis uchtman: Kelly, I really like the rabbit's breath flute. The foot/head design is neat
charlotte reynolds: Is it a South American type flute?
Tom Albertsen: Yes
charlotte reynolds: Kelly, where did you come up with a Ghost Dance Flute?
Robin Davis: How long does it take to make a flute?
Tom Albertsen: My teacher was talking about the dance and she said that Gary really felt for these people
who did this dance. So I decided to make a fluteafter the dance.
Colette deFrey: Ron,your group gets the next question.
Ron Abdouch: Garrett and Katherine would like to know,"How are flutes used today?"
charlotte reynolds: Paul makes flutes in sets of 5, and it takes a couple of weeks.
Ron Abdouch: How are flutes used today?
charlotte reynolds: Flutes are used for personal entertainment, recording CDs, performing live and all around
Colette deFrey: Erik, your students are next
Ron Abdouch: Thanks
erik clark: We would like to know if you make your own flutes
charlotte reynolds: Yes, Paul makes the flutes.
Colette deFrey: STephanie - go for it
Robin Davis: Is the mouth piece on the ones you make the same size as regular flutes?
charlotte reynolds: The flutes are end blown, not across like a silver concert flute.
Ron Abdouch: We have new group coming in at sunset. Thanks
Colette deFrey: OK, Ron - your students are next.
Ron Abdouch: Josh and Connor would like know,"How did you make the water sounds on the CD/"
charlotte reynolds: The water sounds come from a Two headed ocean drum
Ron Abdouch: What is an ocean drum?
Tom Albertsen: Can you take your flutes apart?
Colette deFrey: Let's find out first what an ocean drum is. Then we'll get to Olga's question.
Tom Albertsen: I'm sorry ignore that questions
charlotte reynolds: A wood frame with two drum heads on each side, with beebees inside that you sift back
and forth, making it sound like the ocean.
Robin Davis: Can you play regular band music on these flutes?
Ron Abdouch: Thanks
charlotte reynolds: You probably could play very simple tunes on a native flute beCAUSE YOU ONLY HAVE
Colette deFrey: Ok, Erik's group next.
erik clark: When did you start playing?
charlotte reynolds: Gary taught himself the flute in 1973 while in college.
Colette deFrey: Kelly - it's your turn.
Tom Albertsen: How do you you clean them?
charlotte reynolds: You don't.
Colette deFrey: Ron - your students are next.
Ron Abdouch: Do you like to play your flute a lot just for fun?
Tom Albertsen: Why don't you clean your flutes?
charlotte reynolds: Yes, outside in nature.
Ron Abdouch: Thanks
Colette deFrey: why aren't the flutes cleaned?
charlotte reynolds: The flutes do not need to be cleaned. They absorb the moisture.
Colette deFrey: Have all the groups asked a question at Sunset Hills?
Ron Abdouch: yes
erik clark: We have a couple more questions if there is time
Colette deFrey: We have about 3 mins left to chat. Is there any one last question from any of the groups? Go
Robin Davis: How do you transport them around?
charlotte reynolds: In tubes that are made of pvc pipe.
Ron Abdouch: Josh at Sunset said that he is going to start playing the flute becuase of the music he heard on
Robin Davis: what's pvc pipes?
erik clark: Austin would like to know if you like playing the flute.
Tom Albertsen: Which song expresses your feelings the most?
charlotte reynolds: Gary thinks that is wonderful. If he needs to get a flute, contact Oregon Flute store in
charlotte reynolds: PVC is a heavy plastic. It protects the delicate flute.
Robin Davis: Who are your customers, and do you have many?
Robin Davis: ok
Colette deFrey: Go ahead and answer those last two questions and then we'll need to quit this session.
Ron Abdouch: Gary, Thanks for the advise, Josh.
charlotte reynolds: Gary said "Along the River" from the Winds of Honor cd.
erik clark: Phil asks: We read that drums were the sound of land and whistles were the sound of the sky. Can
you explain this?
charlotte reynolds: Gary does not know who buys his music, but he know that he has sold many and that it is
a growing family.
charlotte reynolds: The drum is the heartbeat of the people. Whistles were used as signal calls.
Colette deFrey: Phil's question will be our last for today. Sorry!
Ron Abdouch: Thanks forf the great chat and we love Cheyenne Eyes!!!!
Robin Davis: k bye! It was nice talking to u!! :o):o)
erik clark: thanks! bye
charlotte reynolds: Thank you!
Colette deFrey: Gary and Paul - Thanks so much. The kids really learned so much from you
Robin Davis: from Olga, Stephanie, and Kelly!:o)
Colette deFrey: This was a GREAT chat!
charlotte reynolds: Thanks, they enjoyed the opportunity to share what has been shared with them over time.
Ron Abdouch: Thanks everyone we are out of here!
charlotte reynolds: Good bye.
Robin Davis: bye :0)
Tom Albertsen: :o) Nice talking to youand thank you for your advice on my flute playing